Phils White Gloves 12:10 Tue Dec 9
The Poor Can't Cook
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Conservative peer Baroness Jenkin of Kennington has apologised after saying "poor people don't know how to cook".
Lady Jenkin was speaking in Westminster at the release of a report into the rising use of food banks in Britain.
The parliamentary inquiry - which she was part of - was set up to understand the extent and spread of hunger, food poverty and its causes.
Can you cook? My Chili Con Carne is legendary but then again I'm not poor.
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Hammer and Pickle
9:49 Wed Dec 10
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Thing is though, democracy in all it various guises was always about gaining legitimacy to raise taxes and manage human and social capital on behalf of business and the social class engaged most in business activity. It was never about taking care of the poor or reducing wealth inequality as such.
Over the years, and especially in the 19th and 20th century, the business class came to see it could manage its investment and reduce business risk more effectively by making sure it gained legitimacy to tax from as broad a base as possible, thereby securing at once political stability and greater fiscal revenue streams.
It also became apparent that the broad working, voting mass of tax payers was very much an asset that needed to be maintained and could even be improved. Hence the states that began to develop institutions to administer welfare, state education, medical care, policing, housing and transport infrastructure development in the 19th century, like Britain, Germany, and partially France, Spain and Italy forged ahead at that time.
However, this complex state building was never designed to satisfy the needs of the poor. What it has always been supposed to do was maintain the right social conditions required by business.
I'm just saying this because it is an important gauge when judging the honesty and real intent of politicians and the messages they send to voters. So when they say they want to radically curtail the welfare state, introduce high inheritance taxes or get out of the EU, you know they are either talking crap or they are genuinely fighting the broad business classes and seeking to replace democracy with tyranny.
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Too Much Too Young
8:20 Wed Dec 10
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The Poor should nip down their local WH Smith and pick up a copy of Ramsey's Ultimate Home Cooking book for £5, as is currently on offer.
i got one yesterday.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
7:57 Wed Dec 10
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Monk~koknee 12:26 Wed Dec 10
Actually - no. Feel feel to quote a source to support you, though.
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Cheezey Bell-End
4:53 Wed Dec 10
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No need to lower the tone..
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Joke Whole
4:32 Wed Dec 10
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. But who knocks out the better nosh, the left or the right?
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Gavros
4:21 Wed Dec 10
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Nationalism is a trait of cultural conservatives, who can be left or right. The right as generally understood from an economic standpoint have always been internationalist, hence the belief amongst the left and general loons that globalisation is to blame for everything, facilitated by a global cartel of lizard people.
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Infidel
3:57 Wed Dec 10
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Cholo, why is nationalism viewed as being 'right wing'?
Was Lenin a nationalist? Yes.
Was Trotsky? Yes.
Mao?Yes.
Hugo Chavez? Yes.
Fidel Castro? Yes.
How did this end up being the distinguishing feature of "the far right"?
The far right is libertarian - and therefore not in the least bit nationalist.
It's a tortuous logic that puts Ayn Rand in the same political basket as Adolf Hitler.
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Dapablo
3:43 Wed Dec 10
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The Germans were Fascists which means do as I say or else, matters not whether left or right wing as can be seen with the USSR same shit.
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cholo
3:20 Wed Dec 10
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Infidel
Probably because of its staunch nationalism, which is viewed as a right wing trait.
Although Hitler was probably the worst of both left and right.
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Cheezey Bell-End
3:16 Wed Dec 10
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Because they were all about establishing and reinforcing a class system whereas the Bolsheviks we all about breaking one down.
In reality, their methods meant they had more in common with each other than they would have admitted.
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Infidel
3:09 Wed Dec 10
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Cholo
If the Nazi party incorporated policies of the far Left, why does everyone - and I mean everyone - refer to them and their present day imitators as the 'far Right'?
I'm genuinely interested to know why because it baffles me.
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Robbo 59
3:08 Wed Dec 10
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The unfortunate thing about socialism is that it doesnt work.Capitalism is currently the only form of society that can generate wealth to provide for society.After all,look at our definition of poverty now.Massive strides have been made to help the less fortunate. Its a bit different to 1930.It is possible remember for people who have less than others to be greedy as well.
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cholo
2:55 Wed Dec 10
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Infidel 12:03 Wed Dec 10
Socialism is an anti - nationalist, internationalist movement, Hitler was overtly nationalist, the term nationalist - socialist is an oxymoron. The nazi party incorporated policies from far left and far right but they could in no way be socialist for the reason given in the first sentence.
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balders
2:18 Wed Dec 10
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Infidel
It's only the left who slag of our armed forces and side with the enemy I wonder why
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Infidel
2:06 Wed Dec 10
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Coffee
That is a video clip of a Nazi.
So by implication you think I am a violent anti-semite with delusions of racial superiority and pyschopathic tendencies.
The Nazis caused upwards of 50 million deaths and destroyed the lives of every person in Europe.
It isn't remotely funny or clever to call someone a Nazi. It demonstrates a lack of understanding on your part of the scale of the atrocities that took place under Hitler and the extent of human suffering he caused. It is deadly serious, not something you joke about.
You are no better than the infantile protesters who urinate on the memorials to our war dead and shout abuse at our troops when they return home from active duty. War, you simply don't get it, do you?
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Nurse Ratched
2:04 Wed Dec 10
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Some mature debating from the WHO Guardianistas here. Anybody would think they had no logical rebutting points to make. That cannot be the case, surely?
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Coffee
1:57 Wed Dec 10
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cholo
You heard a choir.
I heard this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV9kyocogKo
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cholo
1:09 Wed Dec 10
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Infidel, as I read that I imagined this being sung by a choir in the background...
In-fi-del
Make It A Better Place
For You And For Me
And The Entire Human Race
There Are People Dying
If You Care Enough
For The Living
Make A Better Place
For You And For Me
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Infidel
1:03 Wed Dec 10
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Coffee
I agree.
I offer a country which will be the best place in the world to do business. A country of low taxes, light touch regulation and a commitment to personal liberty.
This will act as a magnet. Businesses will flock to the UK. They will build factories here, sales centres, R&D centres, distribution hubs, head offices. The flow of inward investment will create a surge in demand for workers. There will be jobs for everyone who wants to work.
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Swiss.
12:56 Wed Dec 10
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When I was really hard up I found this useful
http://www.amazon.com/Cooking-Poo-Saiyuud-Diwong/dp/0977507076
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cholo
12:35 Wed Dec 10
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ironsofcanada 12:33 Wed Dec 10
Yeh well, you would say that!
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